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 Ital: What are your thoughts on the future of America? Harold: America? (pauses) Well its still going to be a country that is been set up by the 13 Indian tribes back in 1490 something and the counsel that met with them and decreed the releasing of this land which is called the Tama in the Book of Oahspe and in the Book of Urantia its called Urantia, Planet 606. So anyway in the mutual contract the Indian tribes, 13 met with the counsel said we will give you 500 years to which we will take over the country. Alright, so the authorities on the hierarchy issued an order to Queen of Spain... Ethel: Isabel. Harold: ...to send Columbus out into the western hemisphere and they found this country and of course this is the Columbus discovering this climate right here or this continent and the rest of it is history as it evolved in from there. 500 years the term was finished out in 1992, '92 the Indian reservations had been pushed down and couldn't do anything, was released of the responsibility and they started having there what do they call it Bingo... Ital: Right the casinos, all that stuff. Harold: ...and they started making a fortune and they no longer depended upon the United States government so this is the beginning etc. Now because this country is locked in with AMER, America, united all of these letters are energy fields that direct us locked into a purpose or a manifestation or a manifesto and that is being looked by our Gods as the authorities to conduct a healing, helping, assisting dialog for any political partner no matter who it is and this has been the quest as has been established in our history books and what have you and so we will continue so long as we are of good grace with our authorities that run the show. So your white brotherhood is very much affiliated with this and your hierarchy that are affiliated with that many, many other sororities or community... Ethel: Organizations. Harold: ...organizations are affiliated with it as the Knights of Columbus, so on and so on, but this is an effect that of continuance that will be out into the future of 2000 whatever. So we'll continue. Ital: Did you see any major significance in the year 2003? Like astronomical significance that would have any bearing on the near future. Harold: To start with the planet has a bunch of inhabitants that you, me, Ethel here that have populated the planet and the expectation of that divine ordinance is that you will return to your creator. Well, there's been much of mucho people that all they want to do is reincarnate, to have a good time and they'll leave the planet at various ages, some of them are old timers, others are young, killed in accidents, sickness, plights whatever. Kings, Queens killing of the population of those who they were not in favor of their rulership so on and so on, such as in Africa, South America all over the planet. Now, in this here as evolutionary process, in the 2003, the DNA is being changed in our physical bodies that began through the hierarchies established dateline of 1963. Ital: That's when it started you say? Harold: That's when it began?and it was very innocent in its starting. The chronicles of this and its historical point was the killing of Kennedy the presidential assassination from that time forward the particulars, and by the way all of these particulars has been written up in the Times Union and about eight or nine different articles over these last few years every since 1999. Ital: When you say particulars you mean? Harold: They are little particulars (particles) and they're called "Quarks" you cant see them with the physical eye but its measured as it comes in through the stratosphere into our ionosphere and then as our planet's gravitationally comes on down into our atmosphere where we are at in breathing/inhaling the mana or its called that by our peers and so this prana has been affecting our chakras or integral gland system trying to bring them up? Ital: Elevate the consciousness. Harold: ...elevate the consciousness, so that we will be somewhat enlightened to be able to make the trip, because the planet being so gravitational, denseness of humans that are carnal, worldly, mundane, etc. Ital: So you said its been written up in the Times Union? The quarks, explain it to me. Harold: Oh yeah I got all of them. Ital: So you say the energy, the mana, prana... Harold: Mana, Prana, the Buddhists... Ital: ...the energy is coming down, so you mean its in the script, hidden in the letters? Harold: No not the letters, Its just the particulars that flows from outer space. Ital: How is it written up in the Times Union? Harold: As quarks. Ital: You mean the sayings? Harold: Well if you blow them up in size their like grains of sand but they're much smaller than that, real microscopic particles, you couldn't see it however... Ital: This is not what they call rods is it? Harold: Maybe it is in somebody's language, I don't know but not as I am thinking of it. Ital: So as you read it, it just goes through your eyes and goes into your system? Harold: Well, yeah you inhale in through your nostrils and it goes into your bloodstream, it goes into your lungs. Ital: And this is in the papers in the Times Union? Harold: They don't detail specifically the way I'm telling it. Listen to what I'm telling you, they explain it all about how this is affecting the planet. Ital: So you have that, you have that information? Harold: Yeah. Ital: Okay, so we can look at it? Harold: You could look at it today if you wanted to. Ital: Yeah I wouldn't mind just looking at it. Harold: Okay, I'd be glad to show it to you. Its affecting the ants, the blades of grass, the crystals in the ground and on and on and on. Quarks and the Universe Quarks Theory Some Relationships B-tween Semen & Ectoplasm ECTOPLASM: A REPORT FROM EXPERIENCES Basic Pranayama Techniques Ital: One other question. There was a guestbook you used to have, its not here I think its at the church now. Is it still made out of wood like it used to be? Harold: Yeah we had the first wave of the church people they wanted to have some sort of remembrance of the history of the organization so they took pictures and got sheets of parchment and started putting all the clippings of newspapers and everything, pictures of individuals what have you. To sort of keep it and they put plywood over the top of the cover. Ital: So maybe what I did once I saw it, I don't think you had the pictures in there. I think it was just names at that time. Harold: Well names maybe, pictures in there now, Ralph Street. Ital: So I guess I saw a glimpse into the future I looked at it one day and I had this vision and there was something, you know how you see these cartoons and its starts moving, so I had this experience like that once. Harold: Yeah, well good, great. You never know where we go with our outlets, do ya. Ital: That's what I'm saying so I know there is some type of significance to The Cosmic Church of Truth. Your age now is? Harold: My age? We're pushing 82 (laughs). Ital: And you've been here since 1968 here in Jacksonville? Harold: Well we came to Jacksonville in 1952, but now up here since 1981. Ital: Okay, do you have any advice you would like to give to the people? Do you have any closing statement to people that's searching for wisdom? We are going to look at the website and include a link. This interview has been really profound. Harold: Remember that what you say is going to be accounted for, what you act and show, and how you think is definitely going to be accounted for. If you are accountable as far as your actions and your deeds, then hopefully you will straighten some of your vices and your (laughs) little boo boos that you pull. There is a definite divine plan that everybody is following. Does that terminate our interview? Ital: Yes sir.
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